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    Away game in Kielce

    Hi lads!

    I'm fan of CSKA Moscow, drujinu woiska russkogo. And due to the friendship of CSKA and Legia I support Legia in Poland. Janczik and his last-second goal to Spartak Moscow added some passion here too.

    On the nearest saturday I arrive Poland for 2 weeks and plan to visit away game in Kielce and cup game in Novy sad or cup game of Lechia Gdansk.

    So the first question is - won't U mind if CSKA Moscow fan visit your away stand&
    If wount there is a question about tickets. How could I buy the tickets on your stand?
    If I'll get them, the other question is about HWDP. How much time the police holds away fans on the stands? Woun't they forse me to go to Warsaw from the station with U lads? I had plans to head Krakow after the game .

    I have a big CSKA flag, so what if I'll take it with me on the game? Wont U mind or there could be problems. By the way, there have already been Lech banners on Spartak Moscow game ...

    And the last question - what are Legia relations with Lechia Gdansk?


    Legia panem est,
    hope to see U on the game!
    Armymen never surrender

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    We will not be allowed in Kielce
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    Zaprawdę powiadam wam, nie ma takiej siły jak ta.... LEGIA! LEGIA! LEGIA!

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    So there wount be any Legia fans there?

    P.S. Lech on Spartak Moscow game.http://www.soccer.ru/news/33808.shtml
    Armymen never surrender

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    That's another question, but it will be extremely hard, especially for you.
    No flags please, BTW.
    podpis cyfrowy <--------
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    Zaprawdę powiadam wam, nie ma takiej siły jak ta.... LEGIA! LEGIA! LEGIA!

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    Re: Away game in Kielce

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    And due to the friendship of CSKA and Legia I support Legia in Poland.
    Дружба между Легией а ЦСКА? Инетерсно какие другие новости нам расскажешь

    następny co zrobił zgodę przez neta
    Mortui sunt, ut liberi vivamus

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    M.b. friendship is not a proper word, "good relations" are better. There are several army teams in the Eastern Europe such as CSKA Moscow, Partisan Beograd, CSKA Sofia, Steaua Bucharesti and they have more common then the other teams. For exampe we have very very good relations with Partisan, U do. A lot our lads were on CSKA Sofia stand during there away game vs Torpedo Moscow. I've seen some guys with Legia scarves on CSKA games in Moscow and heard about some contacts of Legia and CSKA leaders. Legia is definately our biggest friend in Poland espesially after Janzcuk arrival and his last-second equalizer with Spartak.

    jasin, я говорю, то что вижу, а не исхожу из своих собственных предпочтений. Может, ты скажешь о дружбе с Лохомотами исходя из сходства цветов ?
    Или, еще лучше, с бомжами? )))
    Armymen never surrender

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    M.b. friendship is not a proper word, "good relations" are better. There are several army teams in the Eastern Europe such as CSKA Moscow, Partisan Beograd, CSKA Sofia, Steaua Bucharesti and they have more common then the other teams. For exampe we have very very good relations with Partisan, U do. A lot our lads were on CSKA Sofia stand during there away game vs Torpedo Moscow. I've seen some guys with Legia scarves on CSKA games in Moscow and heard about some contacts of Legia and CSKA leaders. Legia is definately our biggest friend in Poland espesially after Janzcuk arrival and his last-second equalizer with Spartak.

    jasin, я говорю, то что вижу, а не исхожу из своих собственных предпочтений. Может, ты скажешь о дружбе с Лохомотами исходя из сходства цветов ?
    Или, еще лучше, с бомжами? )))
    Still, we kind of dont feel this is a topic to be discussed on an open message board.


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    слушай, начнём с конца.

    по поводу бомжей - это мои личние дела, так что чего их тут вмешиваешь? я писал что-нибудь о дружбе с ними? или о "положительных отоношениях"? нет.
    Тоже самое касается паровозов и сходства цветов.
    А насчёт "армейскего союза" просто В контатках определенных личностей не сомневаюсь , но вряд ли можно это назвать дружбой или "good relations". Скорее всего "relations".

    eod
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    M.b. friendship is not a proper word, "good relations" are better. There are several army teams in the Eastern Europe such as CSKA Moscow, Partisan Beograd, CSKA Sofia, Steaua Bucharesti and they have more common then the other teams. For exampe we have very very good relations with Partisan, U do. A lot our lads were on CSKA Sofia stand during there away game vs Torpedo Moscow.

    jasin, я говорю, то что вижу, а не исхожу из своих собственных предпочтений. Может, ты скажешь о дружбе с Лохомотами исходя из сходства цветов ?
    First of all , Poland belongs to Central Europe , not to Eastern one

    Secondly , unlike your fellow Orthodox (Serbs and Bulgarians) we were never close allies to Russians

    Then , if you want internet friendship "iz schodstwa cwjetow" , Polonia Bytom will be the perfect match for you

    Last but not least , if you want any "relations" with Legia , you shouldn't contact
    jasin but mort (the unofficial leader of White Bears group). He's the one who makes such decisions on our behalf
    bana mu , temu pestu

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    He is also known to migrate to your country during summer holidays.

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    M.b. friendship is not a proper word, "good relations" are better. There are several army teams in the Eastern Europe such as CSKA Moscow, Partisan Beograd, CSKA Sofia, Steaua Bucharesti and they have more common then the other teams. For exampe we have very very good relations with Partisan, U do. A lot our lads were on CSKA Sofia stand during there away game vs Torpedo Moscow.

    jasin, я говорю, то что вижу, а не исхожу из своих собственных предпочтений. Может, ты скажешь о дружбе с Лохомотами исходя из сходства цветов ?

    Last but not least , if you want any "relations" with Legia , you shouldn't contact
    jasin but mort (the unofficial leader of White Bears group). He's the one who makes such decisions on our behalf
    Write me a private message Bandit "White Bears- forever and fever!" :O
    ...ta ziemia do Polski należy
    choć Polska daleko jest stąd,
    bo wolność krzyżami się mierzy
    historia ten jeden ma błąd!!!!

    Better Dead Than Red!!!

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    Better later then nether, so I'll write a few words bout my trip.
    Poland was pretty nice, I've visited lots of towns, mostly from the eastern side of Poland and most of them seemed to be great. Zivec is great too. Natives were friendly and I didn't feel any antypathy. Regarding football I visited 2 games : Korona - Legia and Wisla - Polonia. 1-st was not that good, the football perfomance was poor. Unfortunately Legia support was really banned but I specially bought a ticket on so called "away sector" . It was funny to sea the reaction of the "villians" on 20 Legia supporter who apperard in the central stand by the end of the game. Then the whole stadium sings "ебач Легия" to just 20 lads - it is really funny. But to be honest native support was good.
    Wisla support was much better, unfortunately CSKA level of vocal support during ordinary games is much lower. I was inpressed. Hope to see Legia in action and to compare. By the way before the game my russian-polish dictionary betraided me and some Wisla fans asked me what is my team in Russia. When I answered CSKA guess what did they say. They just looked at each other and declared " to je Legii drugi ". Very nice for U lads from this forum. By the way I asked a salesman of LegiaStore about the friendship of our clubs. And he told that there was friendship before but now it is calm and Legia leaders are waiting for the steps of our leaders. If U'll see that lad -best regards from me. That CSKA scarf in the store if it is still there was my present.
    If in general - the trip was good and I feel that I'll return in Poland and hope to see CWKS Legia support in action.
    Armymen never surrender

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    If in general - the trip was good and I feel that I'll return in Poland and hope to see CWKS Legia support in action.
    That will be hard. Because we have some kind of a protest right now. But in future who knows.
    Niesłusznie Skazani

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    Yeh, I've heard about that. I have bad luck about Legia support
    And what about the away games ban? When it'll finish?

    P.S. Here's an article in ane of russian fanzines. http://www.championat.ru/football/article-16393.html
    What do U think about that?(sure if U know russian )
    Armymen never surrender

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    When it'll finish?
    Theoreticaly in 2 years, but no one believie in this. In my opinion that will be longer period of time. We`ll see

    About article:
    В 1944 году, когда советские войска освободили Варшаву
    We call this ocupation, not "oswobodzenie"
    А одной из самых известных достопримечательностей двухмиллионного города является футбольный клуб "Легия".
    Can you translate? I don`t understand this

    I`ve read only to: Фанатская жизнь
    Rest later.
    Niesłusznie Skazani

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    А одной из самых известных достопримечательностей двухмиллионного города является футбольный клуб "Легия".
    Can you translate? I don`t understand this
    a jedną z najbardziej znanych atrakcji 2-milionowego miasta okazał się klub piłkarski Legia
    bana mu , temu pestu

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    If in general - the trip was good and I feel that I'll return in Poland and hope to see CWKS Legia support in action.
    All nice things you said are very well deserved, thanks. It doesn't matter when the period of this punishment will expire. We are banned for all the time. Only reasons will be changed. :/
    "Kiedyś chodziło o to, żeby czegoś dokonać, teraz o to, żeby być kimś"

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    Lets stop talking about politics. Almost everyone from our lads don't feel good about SU. The regime hurted ordinary people in Russia too as it did in Poland, Hungary, Czech Rep and so on.
    We call this ocupation, not "oswobodzenie"
    - so don't be strict to the words as it could be endless conversation. By the way the author of the article is from Poland.

    A few words about Dawid. Here's the way how we did welcome him to our club.
    http://community.livejournal.com/ru_ultras/100441.html

    It is funny but while I've been in Poland lots of guys who got to know where am I from asked me about him.
    Armymen never surrender

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    It is funny but while I've been in Poland lots of guys who got to know where am I from asked me about him.
    Polish clubs are poor (compared to Russian clubs very poor ) and selling player for 4 mln Euro is big and rare event for us. ;P

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    Witame, panstvo!
    The fortune is a very funny lady. Really. My friends invited me to their wedding, and so I didn't loose a chance to visit Poland again. And the I watched Legia calendar and found that just that weekend Legia plays Korona home. So I visited all 2 games between the clubs in the championship'08 and these were the only Legia games I visited .

    So congratulations to all of you guys. The game was not that electric but I enjoyed watching Kowalewsky loosing again . I was very angry with the work of ticket kasses - I missed the start of game because of them. And the support...here I've got questions to you.
    1. Why before the beginning of game the support was powerfull and great and during the game there were none of it? You could wath football in scilence home in much bettere conditions.
    2. What was the numerous chant "Sperdolaj 'and here smth like IDC, Ididn't understand'" about? The stand was also waving with white napkins that moment. It is some stuff about the conversations with club management?
    3. What was written on Korona handwritten banner, which was shown in the second half?
    4. Who was the player, who went on the substitusion and was so well-invited by the stand? His name was even chanted.

    Thanks for answers! "Aaaaaa" - remember that stuff with "injured" Korona payer? )))))) That was very fucking funny .
    P.S. Maybe some of you were in that open-air cafe near the stadium? It is near the bridge and there were lots of Kibica there. Nice place )))

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    1. Why before the beginning of game the support was powerfull and great and during the game there were none of it? You could wath football in scilence home in much bettere conditions.
    1-ое Апрела - день шутника; поэтому была поддержка с начала, а потом "Вальтер (те. владелец луба) - что? шутка :П"

    2. What was the numerous chant "Sperdolaj 'and here smth like IDC, Ididn't understand'" about? The stand was also waving with white napkins that moment. It is some stuff about the conversations with club management?
    правильно понял: ИТИ - это наш споснор, "**********" - пошёл вон, белые салфетки - знак прощания

    3. What was written on Korona handwritten banner, which was shown in the second half?
    стоп для полицейский провокации

    P.S. Maybe some of you were in that open-air cafe near the stadium? It is near the bridge and there were lots of Kibica there. Nice place )))
    я был :P
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    Thanks, Jasin.
    About point 1. - so, normally there is support on games? Match was at 30.03, not 01.04 .

    And where were you in the cafe? I was very visible there )))

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    About point 1. - so, normally there is support on games?
    No. There is still ongoing protest (against policy of the ITI) and most of the supporters do not cheer during the games.

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    4. Who was the player, who went on the substitusion and was so well-invited by the stand? His name was even chanted.
    I presume you are talking about substitution on 71st minute when Burkhardt was changed by Rybus. In fact not the incoming player was cheered but Burkhardt whom was playing his last game in Legia since he is now IFK Norrkeping player.

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